Having trouble getting past level 18... (actually, I had trouble getting past all the levels after 13)
The help files suggest singing do-re-mi or the the start of a song (e.g. morning has broken). But my singing is so bad that if I do sing, say, morning has broken, you could roll a dice on whether I sing the second note as a minor 3rd, major 3rd or perfect 4th....
Short of being able to sing in tune (which i've never been able to do..) is there any other way of learning the intervals? I'm coming to the end of my trial period and I don't think the software has helped yet.. soooo depressing... :help:
How to identify intervals??
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Re: How to identify intervals??
I should point out, that's level 18 in "Interval comparison"..
Of course not, but I'd expect some signs of improvement after spending half an hour to an hour a day on the same exercises for 3 weeks solid..Anonymous wrote:You wouldn't expect to develop your ear in a couple of days...
Ear training takes a lot of practice, like everything else on life.
That'd be like practising "Stairway" for three weeks solid and still not knowing how to play the first four notes! Sure, you may not be able to play most (or even half) of the song.. but after thee weeks you'd want to have something to show for it!
Re: How to identify intervals??
Even though this is an old thread, I find it interesting to learn how others use the program and how they "think" music.
If Foo's not here anymore I welcome anyone to answer in her place. Myself, I haven't used the program at all yet.
Interval identification is a rather theoretical approach to music, I think. It's not at all dependent on singing abilities, so you're not out of luch at all! Hearing is a lot more relevant than the ability to produce a tone. There's also the ability to "think" tones without singning them, sometimes called hearing with "the inner ear". Singing them is only a step to take as a means of help to excercise the inner ear. If you don't like the singing part I see no reason not to develop the "thinking" by use of an instrument, the piano or a guitarr.
The use of familiar melodies are mainly a help to memorize a name for the interval, not the means of finding the interval at a dictate. I suggest you check the other parts of the program out as well, to see if there's another approach for you to take. Then I suggest using an instrument instead of singing and finally focusing the inner ear to how each interval sounds.
Good luck!
If Foo's not here anymore I welcome anyone to answer in her place. Myself, I haven't used the program at all yet.
Level 13 doesn't sound like "no achievement", does it?Foo wrote:Having trouble getting past level 18... (actually, I had trouble getting past all the levels after 13)
There's also the interesting question on why you're doing this. Did you go for interval identification only or did you do the other exercises as well? What's your musical experience and what did you want to achieve?Foo wrote:Short of being able to sing in tune (which i've never been able to do..) is there any other way of learning the intervals?
Interval identification is a rather theoretical approach to music, I think. It's not at all dependent on singing abilities, so you're not out of luch at all! Hearing is a lot more relevant than the ability to produce a tone. There's also the ability to "think" tones without singning them, sometimes called hearing with "the inner ear". Singing them is only a step to take as a means of help to excercise the inner ear. If you don't like the singing part I see no reason not to develop the "thinking" by use of an instrument, the piano or a guitarr.
Sometimes this suggestion fails because the melody is not known (or mistakenly memorized as a variation sung by your dear mother). You seems to say, though, that it's not the melody but only your vocal reproduction that fails. Question is then: Do you hear when you sing the right melody or are the alternatives all the same to you? Would you play "Stairways" for three weeks without being able to hear when you fall out of melody?Foo wrote:The help files suggest singing do-re-mi or the the start of a song (e.g. morning has broken). But my singing is so bad that if I do sing, say, morning has broken, you could roll a dice on whether I sing the second note as a minor 3rd, major 3rd or perfect 4th....
The use of familiar melodies are mainly a help to memorize a name for the interval, not the means of finding the interval at a dictate. I suggest you check the other parts of the program out as well, to see if there's another approach for you to take. Then I suggest using an instrument instead of singing and finally focusing the inner ear to how each interval sounds.
As already said, training is always a help. And I'm sure that you could improve in singing as well, if you want to and if you keep training.Foo wrote:Short of being able to sing in tune (which i've never been able to do..)
Good luck!
interval recognition
Well, Foo, if you can't sing the needed intervals, how about you go tring to play them on a instrument, in that case you should be able to here them more correctly and determine what kind of interval was played...
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