EarMaster can't handle our most basic need: A daily routine.

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EarMaster can't handle our most basic need: A daily routine.

Post by Bogonip »

Hello,

I was considering getting EarMaster school for our college. We'd like to setup a common work routine that fits into an hour, and moves the student through various exercises such as Inversions, progressions, interval singing, dictation, etc.

For example, 30 questions in intervals, 30 in interval singing, 30 chord progressions, 30 melodic dictations, etc.

But it turns out EarMaster school is incapable of this basic requirement.
It can only setup tutors on *ONE* area... Only on intervals.. only on progressions. The user can't progress from one area to another. Since our eartraining course would be very customized and jump from section to section, using EarMaster School just can't do it and the user ends up having to do it all on their own. This makes them forget the routine and not maintain it.

Constraining users into *ONE* EarMaster area for tutors has absolutely no benefit and is a wrong and arbitrary design... Who says a user shouldn't practice identifying 3rds & 6ths, then singing 3rds & 6ths, then do a couple progression exercises, then come back and do 4's and 5's, etc... Why not?

Real deal killer,
EarMaster school almost seemed like it would suit us

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Post by Hans »

Thank you for your suggestion. That is a limitation in EarMaster but it is not a big problem. Just create the lessons and tell your students in what order they should be used. For example:
Lesson 1-3 in Interval identification
Lesson 1 in Chord identification
Lesson 4-5 in Interval identification
Lesson 2-5 in Chord identification

We will consider to include the functionality you ask for in the next version of EarMaster.

Best regards,
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I would also appreciate

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a multi-lesson teacher very much. It would allow standardised automatic practice.

Right now I still am using Hearmaster from Emagic (no longer available) on my very old win98 PC (only for this purpose). (But I am considering Earmast, as soon as it will be available for Mac).

Hearmaster allows me to define Auto-Lessons, which can consist of a mixture of exercices of all sorts in my order. For instance I can set it to
20 Rhythms at first, then 15 chords, then 12 intervals, then 20 random pitches (with 3 notes), then 30 scales ...

this allows me to set up the auto-lessons once, then start them each day and go through the same procedure for as long (as many days, weeks, months) as I wish. When I think, that I should put more weight on the chord exercises, I can alter/modify the existing auto-lesson and increase the number of chord exercises.

My Auto-lessons consist of around 15 different exercises, from which I usually go through the first 12-13... (on my current solution, I only have to start at the beginning, after that, I don't leave my Midi-keyboard for the whole exercises, if I don't want to. Okay, there are no notation exercises...)[/b]
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Post by Quentin »

The Mac version of EarMaster is available now. As Hans wrote, we will try to include the cross-exercise routine in v.6 :-)
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Great News!!!!

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Thanks
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Post by mattdamon »

I must agree with the original poster. Six months ago I considered Earmaster but decided against it because I felt like without being able to make a larger lesson (multi lesson) out of smaller ones was a huge limitation and that I had to go up to the menu and go through each lesson by hand. But that's only a part of it.

What's more is that I desired not just going through each lesson category in an automated fashion........ but that jumping around from lesson to lesson randomly would be awesome if I could setup the plan to be like...

20 scale questions, 20 intervals, 20 chords, 20 rhythmic, 20 singing

Then..., after that part is decided..., whenever I press F5 for a new question, it would randomly jump to lessons until the whole count has been met. So, I could go scale, interval, chord, singing, interval, chord, rythmic, and so forth until the whole multi lesson is completed.

Also, as the original poster stated, that sometimes one wants a different lesson within the same type of lesson, ie, intervals. Sometimes its desirous to identify 3rds vs. 6ths, then singing 3rds and 6ths, then identify 4ths vs. 5ths, then sing those, and so forth.

I _hate_ having to manually input all that when I want to do my lessons in Earmaster. The ability to automate earmaster lessons into a big, cohesive picture is just null, and each day I would forget really what the point was, feeling like doing 30 interval questions in a row was perhaps too specific when I really wanted to have a much more diverse set of challenges.

1. So, multi lesson manager... and
2. randomized jumping between lessons
3. linear inter lessons (3rd and 6ths, then 4ths and 5ths)
4. the ability to set up a timeline where it alternates between linear lessons and randomized lessons. (EG, 60 linear lesson questions, then 60 randomized lessons questions)

Thank you for your consideration.
Last edited by mattdamon on 24 Dec 2008, 04:34, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Quentin »

Hi,
It's all written down. We'll remember your suggestion when we start developing v.6 (in some months). :-)
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Post by mattdamon »

Cool, couldn't ask for more =)
Happy holidays.
See you in six months [hopefully] =)
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