metronome for 6/8

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ondine
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metronome for 6/8

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Is it possible to make the metronome of Ear Master produce 6 beat (strong-weak-weak-strong-weak-weak) for one measure in 6/8 ?

The standard unit of 6/8 meter should be an eighth note. But it seems that the metronome of Ear master can only produce two dotted quarter note in a measure. ;-(
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Post by Quentin »

Hello,
EarMaster is only marking the first beat in all bar types. It is not usual to do so for 6/8 bars, so it will be changed in v6 (it is already on the to-do list).
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Same problem

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I'm seeing the same problem. It is pretty annoying and makes the rhythm training for 6/8 basically useless. This is a bug and please fix it in a v5 update, not v6.
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Post by Quentin »

I forgot in my first answer that EarMaster has atually been updated since then. Before, EarMaster was only playing 8th notes, but many teachers have complained about that, because it's not the way you 'feel' and count a 6/8. Actually, when you play a 6/8 bar, you only mark the two beats that are marked by EarMaster. But I must agree wit you that it could be nice to be able to hear the secondary beats, not only the strong beats. However saying it makes the lesson useless is a bit extreme, as it still corresponds to a musical reality.
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Is useless for learners

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Let me emphasize that, it's worse than useless, it completely throws me off with the 6/8 exercises so then I don't 'feel' the 3/4 or 4/4 coming up after that.

Bluntly, if I would be a music teacher or could just 'feel' the music, I would not have bought earmaster in first place (which in fact is an excellent product over and over).

Please put the 6/8 metronome emphasizing all the beats back in for us 'nooobs' who must work to become mozart :pirate:
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Post by Quentin »

A good way to understand the 6/8 time signature is to hit the "Play question" button in order to hear EarMaster's interpretation together with the metronome. The rhythm sounds as a 6/8 should, having that very special flowing quality, which it loses if the metronome plays 6 8th and only marks the first beat. It demands some training, but once you stop counting it as two 3/4 and count it as a proper 6/8, it gets much easier and makes much more sense. :-)
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Post by prz »

spent good chunk of time on it, still crap, what kills you is that the 6/8 metronome basically stops for 3-4 seconds after lead-in
and then you have to hit the first beat (on imitation). If you just miss it by a fraction of a fraction of a second and then carry that delay into the rhythm it grades all your notes as missed since it's extremely tight on rhythm imitation.
Otherwise you have to try to catch up to the rhythm which is worse than
not learning it at all.

Soo, my call is it's crap the way it is no matter what all the music geniuses think about it. Maybe, just maybe listen to customers and implement some option or something that will at least give me a chance to be on the first 1/8th instead in my head trying to time it without metronome. Otherwise rhythm imitation is basically broken after lesson ~19 in the tutor for all practical purposes. A pity.
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Post by Quentin »

I think the problem resides in the fact that in the first 6/8 lessons, the BPM is set to 45. If it was 90, it would be much easier.
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